Why Om Malik and CNN Don’t Matter (Or The Importance Of The Nigerian Movie Industry)

In-between taking pictures of chicks and actually drinking Chartreuse I spent an hour at WordCamp listening to Om Malik talk about blogs and journalism.

Now Om is a smart guy. We talked briefly before he spoke about the current web 2.0 noise and the way to make interesting videocasts. He won’t let me quote him but his observations are spot on.

But maybe one of the many Apple laptops fell on his head before he decided to to talk about blogs and journalism.

Here’s what he said “…if Bloggers are going to be taken seriously as journalists they have to follow the same rules of legwork and research that journalists follow.”

Let’s be real.

That is a load of crap.

We are living in a world of Institutional collapse.

And one of the things crumbling is journalism.

Does anyone really trust the news anymore?

Does anyone really believe it?

Let’s look at the facts.

The country that produces the most movies on the planet is Nigeria.

The viewership of mainstream news properties are down.

The most popular news channel bases itself on opinion, not fact.

People believe their next door neighbor and their mom.

If middlemen are being kicked out of every other industry why in the world would anyone think the news business is any different?

One of the powerful things about TEAM NEW ORLEANS project is that they are going to just talk to people.

Fuck the journalist focus.

Just let the people bleed on camera.

Some kid is made to strip in the middle of a public street.

Do you want to talk to the kid?

Do you want to see what the cops have to say?

His mom?

Or do you want to listen to someone else tell you the story.

That’s what I thought.


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36 Comments on “Why Om Malik and CNN Don’t Matter (Or The Importance Of The Nigerian Movie Industry)”

  1. Glad you blogged this, Char. You have a great different perspective than I do and I’m glad you got your post out there before I did mine.

  2. chartreuse Says:

    It bothered me because I like Om. But he’s thinking like it’s 1999.

  3. Noah Brier Says:

    How many journalists actually do real research? Come on, it’s a joke. Research is something people use to support their point.

  4. Mark Says:

    Char —

    Let’s not limit the onesidedness of the new media to the one network everyone loves to bash.

    Reuters withdraws all photos by freelancer

    That’s the kind of spin we’d expect from old media.

  5. Mark Says:

    [edit] “…onesidedness of the media”

  6. chartreuse Says:

    Good point.
    I just used Fox because it’s an easy target and I’m a simple guy.
    But keep in mind that my blog is not a “No Spin Zone”.

    Every conversation is somebody’s spin.

  7. […] Sun Ra – Brother from another Planet Pt.3 see you when I get back and Don’t Be Bored! and check out chartreuse’s post on the importance of the Nigerian movie industry. […]

  8. rafi Says:

    I’ve taken to writing fake news stories which people think are real. I think that’s related here.

    Like this one building off NY Times graffiti marketing.

    I reserve the right to put fake news, real news, joke opinions and real opinions all right next to each other. Oh Word is not a news site. Oh Word is a news bomber.

  9. wetbankguy Says:

    I think you can’t flatly reject some of the basic principles of journalism and still be taken seriously. Double-sourcing, independent verification of facts, you can’t just toss these aside and expect to replace the MSM.

    There are places in blogging where you don’t have to put on a green eye shade. Taking my own, Katrina-centric experience, if you just post the two wire photos–one of black people carrying a flat of water they “looted” and one from AFP showing two white people carrying a flat of water they “foraged”–you’ve made a powerful statement. No fact-checking required.

    You can also do what I did a lot of in the sixth months after Katrina, tying together different MSM stories and waving them together into a cohorent picture. Doing this relies on the cred and professionalism of the sourcing news media.

    If we try to write from scratch and don’t pay attention to our own credibility, we diminish the value of blogging/citizen journalism. The basics are so simply–verify facts, use at least two corroborating sources, don’t go off half cocked just to be first or because something pisses you off, don’t just rip and paste (a little thing called copyright, and no I’m not fedending the new law, just coping with it–that there’s no excuse not to follow them.

  10. chartreuse Says:

    Let’s talk about credibility.

    Who’s credible?

    Credible are the people you know and have a relationship with.

    If you have a real relationship with your audience then you have credibility.

    And no one fact checks their mom.

  11. I’m going there. I’m speaking to people who are living there. I’m documenting what I see.

    To people who know me I’m very credible. If you don’t know me check the people who do know me.

    Ask them, and decide for yourself. Look at what I document.

    It’s not about credible. It’s about one human talking to another human and asking

    “What happened here, and are you okay now?”

    I don’t need a journalism degree to accomplish this.

  12. Jecklin Says:

    A perfect example of this is someone like Alex Jones.


    CNN wants ALL of US to trust IT. They have the look, the expertise, the professionals, the access to the construct etc…why don’t we trust them??

    Guys like Alex Jones know they’re conversing with just *their people* –those resonating at a similar frequency…and a few searchers floating by…

    Its like doctors and big medicine…most still don’t want to accept there are other ways. but people are getting tired of the pills….

    CNN, doctors etc all react the same predictable way….

    back to news and cred again–isn’t much of it about the framing? we have this madhouse zoo of a world spinning around in all of its Magnificent Glory…and one person is shooting footage of one thing…and another person is on his Mac cutting different footage emphasising something else completely opposite…

    Some people will resonate with one, different people will resonate with the other…some with neither…others depending on the day…

  13. wetbankguy Says:

    Yes, but I don’t know your mom. Should I limit myself to information from people I know? That ultimately diminishes the value of what we can do electronically to build new information networks. It’s a short, slippery slope from your mom to you’re brother-in-law’s cousin’s dog groomer says he overheard. This isn’t preciisely like federation in an on-line security world.

    I can trust an online source based on a confluence of paths traceable back to people I trust, but that gets messy fast. And how do my intermediaries know to trust? What if their mother is a journalist, or an academic schooled in that environment of citation and reference? Will they link to a source if they don’t think it meets certain, well-established standards?

    There is no simple answer to this problem. I know (and implicitly trust) people online whom I’ve never met because I’ve looked at the same information and drawn the same conclusions. Hell, the person I’m thinking of has done a better job of tracking the federal funding for hurricane relief than any MSM outlet. I’ve looked at the same information enough to know he has it covered, so I rely on him implicitly. But getting to that level of trust on this issue was a lot of work.

  14. I don’t agree with you. I think most of the tradicional media still have credibility for their readers. Many bloggers also are credible for their readers. And I think there is space enough for both of them. Or even more space.

    A blogger works like a journalist, and if you look to the top bloggers (the most credible) they all take some journalistic approach on their writtings, supporting what they are saying with links to other more or less reliable sources, but they do use this form.

    Nothin credible are social news sites such as digg and reddit, and that what I’ve talked about on my portuguese post on doispontocinco regarding the reuters case and the CNN exchange. There’s no sense for credible news media to go for the easy way and start to introduce popular content not verified to their transmitions. This way, they will lose their credibility. The little they still have.

  15. Roy T Says:

    Can’t wait…

  16. […] A perfect example of this is someone like Alex Jones. (re: char’s post, CNN doesn’t matter) […]

  17. David Krug Says:

    🙂 Hmm where’s is Om Malik?

    Man, he must be a journalist they never comment.

  18. Duncan Says:

    “Every conversation is somebody’s spin.”
    Spot on, impartiality is subjective.

  19. jeff marks Says:

    libel is the test for what is credible. we don’t need no stinkin’ prior restraint… print what you want, broadcast what you want…. but you better be right when you call someone out in person for what they did wrong… i know you don’t like it, but journalists trade in credibility. whether you favor shepard smith or amy goodman. (by the way, i love mom and all – but i trust amy g. more than anyone on the planet with the news!) that’s why journalists earn a living doing it. and by earn a living, i mean get paid for what they do. not volunteer their time (and hey i’ve volunteered plenty, so i’m not disrespecting nobody). whether it’s by donation or ad revenue…. someone values their sources and story-telling ability enough to pay for it. the spin couldn’t matter less… make it entertaining as all hell, sure! but you better get the big facts straight!

    hypothetically speaking…. watch one of your team new orleans stories blow up! be everywhere and expose everything… and then… oops…. watch some shit be wrong, really wrong…. and watch someone (say some fat-cat with some contract for one of those FEMA trailer parks) who was made to look the fool sue you for libel… and then you start to wish your “journalists” followed “the same rules of legwork and research that journalists follow”. it ain’t a guarantee, but if i’m gonna put my money, and more importantly my rep on the line… i’m gonna hire the best damn jounralist i can find. fuck the amater hour – get me lowell bergman!!!

  20. glenda Says:

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    documentary on 9/11

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    Please remember this core fact in all of the debate over the events of 911. The total disintegration of the twin towers into dust and rubble within seconds is a mark of a controlled demolition, not a building pancaking. If the towers did in fact pancake, the end result would have been a stack of concrete floors.

  21. Liz Strauss Says:

    They’re right, Char. You guys need credibility. Not everyone has the time to get to know you or the smarts on the uptake to “get” you.

    So I hereby endow you with the official Liz seal of credibility and approval, supported by Angelo and Pasquale.

    You are now not just incredible, but credible as well. That goes for the whole team, Loren too.

    What? Credible comes from irrefutable authenticity. You make sure you keep yours by street smarts . . . by not letting folks you talk to sell you a proverbial bill of goods. How you do that isn’t a function of the number of sources. It’s a function of understanding what makes true things true.

  22. […] Alot has been hinted at about the session Om Malik hosted at WordCamp. I think I gave him the hardest time publically, though there were a few such as Loren Feldman and Chartreuse who also took him to task. Om Malik is one of the finest tech writers in the industry, and my criticism of him should in no way diminish that fact. He is skillful in his words, mostly neutral in his opinions and fact-checks stuff to a fault. […]

  23. […] Harsh but real commentary on Om from Chartreuse. […]

  24. range Says:

    Citizen journalism rocks. I have been a part time journalist some time ago. The writing is so rigid. I didn’t like it that much but it taught me a lot. Right now, I prefer reading the spin that bloggers take on situations than rigid news. It gives perspective. Sure the facts are important but so are the opinions.

  25. wetbankguy Says:

    >Credible comes from irrefutable authenticity. You make sure you keep yours by street >smarts . . . by not letting folks you talk to sell you a proverbial bill of goods. How you do >that isn’t a function of the number of sources. It’s a function of understanding what makes >true things true.

    What makes things true and what makes them real are two seperate issues. In your face with a boom mike and lights gets you real, regardless of the value of the subject. Getting two or more subjects with expertise, eyewitness testimoney, etc. gets you true.

    The woman from the Ninth Ward who testified that the levees were blown up (the flood walls actually) is 100% Real, but sadly about 0% True. If you run into her (or chose to seek her out) would you be getting the truth out? Would you be helping us in any measureable way? No.

    If you want Real and True, come gut a house with the volunteers from someplace like Common Ground where people are spending ten hours a day in full body suits and respirators in unimaginable heat getting people’s houses because, well, they care.

  26. […] I just wanted to wecome everyone who found me via either Boing Boing (where I mentioned a really great episode of the Catalogue of Ships podcast) or Chartreuse (who was kind enough to reference something I wrote).  I hope you’ll stay and poke around a bit and see if anthing here interests you. I’d love to add you all to my regulars! […]

  27. […] Aaron also referenced a post by Chartreuse on the same subject, where he said, among other things: We are living in a world of Institutional collapse. […]

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  29. The WordCamp 2006 Overview & Wrapup – from 7875 Miles Away!

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    Yup. WordCamp 2006 was held over the weekend in sunny San Francisco and from all accounts it was a raging success.
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  30. […] There is currently a project to have bloggers go to New Orleans and get the real scoop. The reason? The mainstream media isn’t covering how much work is done – and the horrific amount that still needs to be done. […]

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